Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.support.ex-cult Subject: Blackmail Threat From: inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich) Date: 21 Jun 1997 11:46:00 -0700 -------- Faithful Reader, I have been told, through a reliable source with verified connections inside the cult, that the scienos intend to get my youngest daughter, Holly, when she turns 18 in January, to write (and I suppose, file) a declaration detailing how I molested her. The threat of this is suppose to displease me. Quite the contrary. I would really like to see in detail what she has come to accuse me of doing to her. I told the source of the threat precisely that. ----------- To Holly's captors: Go ahead and trot my daughter out into public like a trained poodle in your dog-and-pony, Dead-Agent extravaganza. She BELONGS to you now, doesn't she? Use her as you see fit. But don't forget to rot forever in hell, you vile sliem. Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.support.ex-cult Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 20:08:08 GMT -------- In <33ad2123.4559983@news.primenet.com>, inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich) wrote: >Faithful Reader, > >I have been told, through a reliable source with verified connections >inside the cult, that the scienos intend to get my youngest daughter, >Holly, when she turns 18 in January, to write (and I suppose, file) a >declaration detailing how I molested her. I assume this is only for PR. After all the losses in the McMartin and other cases, I doubt that a prosecutor would be dumb enough to indict you. Besides, why should a victim wait until she is 18? I wonder what they do to her. Is she a scientologist? Tilman ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.support.ex-cult Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: inForm@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:05:32 GMT -------- tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote: YHN: >>I have been told, through a reliable source with verified connections >>inside the cult, that the scienos intend to get my youngest daughter, >>Holly, when she turns 18 in January, to write (and I suppose, file) a >>declaration detailing how I molested her. Tilman: >I assume this is only for PR. Who really knows how they are going to use her. Obviously they will follow Elrong's policy (dead agent, sue to harass, whatever fair game they chose). >After all the losses in the McMartin and >other cases, I doubt that a prosecutor would be dumb enough to indict >you. Especially since I'm the one who brought it to the attention of the authorities and got the local police, FBI and Social Services involved in the first place. But whatever. They're gonna get whatever dead-agent mileage out of my little girl's misery and confusion that they can. >Besides, why should a victim wait until she is 18? Because it's bullsh^t. >I wonder what they do to her. Therapy abuse. >Is she a scientologist? Nope. But her mom runs errands and signs affidavits for OSA. (c-word usage request #RE1042, Martin) Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.support.ex-cult Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: lee@crl6.crl.com (Lee Thompson-Herbert) Date: 22 Jun 1997 02:05:45 -0700 -------- In article <33cc3217.39289092@news.snafu.de>, Tilman Hausherr wrote: >In <33ad2123.4559983@news.primenet.com>, inForm@primenet.com (Rev. >Dennis L Erlich) wrote: >[...] >>inside the cult, that the scienos intend to get my youngest daughter, >>Holly, when she turns 18 in January, to write (and I suppose, file) a >>declaration detailing how I molested her. > >I assume this is only for PR. After all the losses in the McMartin and >other cases, I doubt that a prosecutor would be dumb enough to indict >you. Besides, why should a victim wait until she is 18? It has to be for PR value. If she filed while she was still under 18, Child Protective Services would be required by law to investigate. And they'd probably find out a whole lot more about the girl's mother and the environment in the cult than they'd find about Dennis. CPS is used to seeing all sorts of weird (false) accusations made during custody disputes and divorces. The only point of filing _after_ Holly turns 18 would be to smear Dennis' name. CPS can't investigate it, and she can't file _criminal_ charges for child abuse. She can, however, tie Dennis up with yet another civil court case, this one with all sorts of lurid details. I really think the cult is afraid to have her file before she's 18, lest CPS find out a whole lot more about how children are treated in the Cult of $cammatology. Too bad CPS is too over-worked to do a real investigation of what actually happens to kids in the cult. Sionach Ruadh (shawn-ack row-ah) Joker and Degrader, 1.1 Member, KoX (1995). SP3 Charter Member, EvilZombiePsychDrugLords' Prozac Brigade -- Lee M.Thompson-Herbert KD6WUR lee@crl.com Member, Knights of Xenu (1995). Chaos Monger and Jill of All Trades. "There are some people who will argue whether the flames are blue or green, when the real question is that their arse is on fire." ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.support.ex-cult Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: inForm@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 16:10:08 GMT -------- lee@crl6.crl.com (Lee Thompson-Herbert) wrote: YHN: >>>inside the cult, that the scienos intend to get my youngest daughter, >>>Holly, when she turns 18 in January, to write (and I suppose, file) a >>>declaration detailing how I molested her. Tilman: >>I assume this is only for PR. After all the losses in the McMartin and >>other cases, I doubt that a prosecutor would be dumb enough to indict >>you. Besides, why should a victim wait until she is 18? Lee: >It has to be for PR value. If she filed while she was still under >18, Child Protective Services would be required by law to investigate. I already ~forced~ CPS to open a case back in 1984 when I reported what Holly told me. (BTW, don't bother reporting abuse to this monumentally incompetent bureaucracy. You risk them turning around and pointing the finger at you.) >And they'd probably find out a whole lot more about the girl's mother >and the environment in the cult than they'd find about Dennis. They wouldn't even look. The venomous mother is married to a San Diego County Sheriff. >CPS >is used to seeing all sorts of weird (false) accusations made during >custody disputes and divorces. And they often add to the mess. >The only point of filing _after_ Holly turns 18 would be to smear >Dennis' name. CPS can't investigate it, and she can't file _criminal_ >charges for child abuse. She can, however, tie Dennis up with yet >another civil court case, this one with all sorts of lurid details. Details are what are needed. I'd like to know what I supposedly did to my then 4 year old little girl. The one for whom I would have laid down my life to protect from the Evil that has her mind and soul captive. >I really think the cult is afraid to have her file before she's 18, >lest CPS find out a whole lot more about how children are treated >in the Cult of $cammatology. Like they'd even look. Easier to beat up on poor folk who can't fight back in court. >Too bad CPS is too over-worked to >do a real investigation of what actually happens to kids in the cult. Too over-worked to do anything but exert power over people's lives and children blindly. Lee, you sound like you're familiar with the CPS system. If my tirade seems to be a blanket condemnation with San Diego's incredibly incompetent CPS and Family Law systems, let me say that at least the armed bailiffs in courtrooms seemed to know what they were doing. No. This is just to place me under more stress. To give me one more reason to fold up my soapbox and snuffit. Personally, I'm past the point of caring. Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.support.ex-cult Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich) Date: 25 Jun 1997 10:38:01 -0700 -------- >Birgitta : >You can't loose your daughter, You are wrong. I have lost her. I have absolutely no rights regarding Holly. I am not allowed to see her or write to her. I am only required to make my payments to her (c-word omitted) mother or go to jail for contempt of court. They can cancel my drivers license. They have take my unemployment insurance and are working at putting me into the street. They have notified the credit bureau, spoiling my perfect credit history. They have harassed my former employers and dragged them into court. My opinion of the San Diego County Family Court would have to improve 110% to be accurately characterized as merely contempt. >she belongs to nobody. Her mind belongs to those who see me as the "Boogieman." An Espee. Someone not entitled to have civil rights. >And one day you will both look back to those years and >find that you survived it all. Or not. >I really understand your pain, as you well know, but >try to not hate. My mother tells me the same thing, but it is hard not to wish suffering on those trampled my rights and despoiled the innocence of my angel. >You are bigger than that. I ~wish~ I was, Bid. At least I'm not thinking of locating an assault rifle and 1000 rounds of ammo and going down there for a little visit, eh? A less stable (and perhaps more dedicated) parent might. It's no surprise to me that San Diego seems to have an excess of massacres and people going "postal". >With love from Birgitta "If I had a rocket launcher ..." - Bruce Cockburn Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * * ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 21:06:13 GMT -------- In <33b45326.8519361@news.primenet.com>, inForm@primenet.com (Rev. Dennis L Erlich) wrote: > You are wrong. I have lost her. I have absolutely no rights >regarding Holly. I am not allowed to see her or write to her. It seems to me that at a time in the last months, you have given up the hope on having a dad-daughter meeting. I can't prove it but my memory was that this was not so before, i.e. that you hope that it would be over when she would be an adult. Please don't rule out that your info ("blackmail") might also be an infirmation spread out by scientology. I think you should still try to meet her, with a witness. ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: Blackmail Threat From: inForm@super.zippo.com (Rev. Dennis Erlich) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 22:38:03 GMT -------- tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote: >In <33b45326.8519361@news.primenet.com>, inForm@primenet.com (Rev. >Dennis L Erlich) wrote: > >> You are wrong. I have lost her. I have absolutely no rights >>regarding Holly. I am not allowed to see her or write to her. > >It seems to me that at a time in the last months, you have given up the >hope on having a dad-daughter meeting. I can't prove it but my memory >was that this was not so before, i.e. that you hope that it would be >over when she would be an adult. > >Please don't rule out that your info ("blackmail") might also be an >infirmation spread out by scientology. I think you should still try to >meet her, with a witness. You don't get it. I am not allowed, by court order, to have any contact with my daughter. None. Not under any circumstances. Rev. Dennis L Erlich * * the inFormer * *