Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: Kim Baker Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 06:15:20 GMT Dammit!! I thought they couldn't hurt me any more, but they have struck deep. I was called by OSA Africa the night before last to go in for a Security Check. I said no. Last night, H phoned me. She and I were very, very close friends - a deep friendship, and we loved each other. She is OT8, Class 8, and in Scientology. The conversation went something like this: "Why don't you want to go in for your Sec Check?" "My reasons are personal, I have left Scientology." "But WHY? You KNOW you can tell me, I'm your friend, I care for you very much. Remember all I have done for you in the past - I mean you no harm." OUCH. "Please, H., can't you just accept that my reasons are personal?" "Yes, but you can tell me. WHO are you connected to, who is enturbulating you like this?" "I have made my own choices, no-one has influenced me." "Yes, but WHO are you still in contact with?" "I will not tell you." "How can you do this to me, Kim, you are hurting me deeply by refusing me communication." OUCH. "After all the times we have shared, after everything, how can you turn around and do this to me?" OUCH, OUCH, OUCH. "H, please, I don't want to hurt you." "Then tell me WHO they are?" "I won't" "Kim, I NEED you as a friend, you know there are no other terminals of comparable magnitude here in Cape Town for me - I NEED you Kim, don't desert me, don't betray me, don't leave me alone!" OUCH, OUCH, OUCH!!!! "H, I won't tell you." "Are you treating me like an SP now? Have you turned enemy on me too?" OUCH "Yes." OUCH, OUCH, OUCH!!!!! "Well then, you have ARC broken me. Some day you can come and repair the break." (tears in her voice) "Bye, H." "Bye." Goddammit! The pain and guilt, oh Jesus. I had a very, very dear friend with me at the time, who heard the whole thing, who understands. He just held me while I sobbed and sobbed and sobbed. I'm crying as I write this now. Bastards! You FUCKING BASTARDS! How can you take that which is so precious in life, a deep friendship, and use it to turn friends against each other? HOW CAN YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT??? Yes, OSA, you hurt, and you hurt me bad. Take a win. Nailed the SP. Well, FUCK YOU, I am NOT going back, I am NOT going to stop telling my story, I am NOT going to shut up. I said NOTHING will stop me, and I meant it. Yes, I am crying, yes, you hurt me deeply, yes, I know there will be more to come, and NO, I will not go back, EVER. I will keep everyone informed on the Internet of any further attempts you make to get me back, of any open or covert attempts you make to stop me. I still have not gotten to the part in "my Story" of what happened last time I was summonsed - I'm still getting there. Kim Baker In deep pain, but not going back - I have broken the final tie now. Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: axg708@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Ashraf Ghebranious) Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 00:18:31 GMT Kim Baker writes: >From: Kim Baker >Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! >Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 06:15:20 GMT Kim. I can not pretend to understand the hurt you are going through. I have never been involved with the cult nor do I know anyone who has in my circle of friends. In that I am lucky. You are the most amazing person I know of on this net. Remember that there are countless others who have suffered as you are now and they not only can understand the hurt, but can comfort you more than I. Peace is yours now. Do not fall for the trap they are setting. They wish to make YOU feel guilty for leaving. A true friend would have abided by your decision and remained a friend. H. WAS a close friend to you and now she refuses to remain so because her religion denies her the freedom to befriend whomever she chooses. Remember Kim, you are NEVER alone here. We love you for what you are and not for what you believe. Cry Kim, but remember that the hurt they have inflicted on you they have done to hundreds of thousands of others. They share your grief and admire your courage. I thank you Kim for your openess. I truly believe that your posts have inspired many. I wish you the best Kim. Ashraf --- ************************************************************************** Ashraf Ghebranious DBA Management Information Systems Division The Australian National University Canberra ACT 0200 PH: 61 6 249 0620 Fax: 61 6 249 0449 Email: ashraf.ghebranious@anu.edu.au ************************************************************************** Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: jack.farmer@crusade1.uucp.netcom.com (Jack Farmer) Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 02:07:20 GMT Hello Kim Baker! In a message to All <12/07/94> Kim Baker wrote: KK> Dammit!! I thought they couldn't hurt me any more, but they have struck d KK> I was called by OSA Africa the night before last to go in for a Security KK> Check. I said no. Not surprising as i recall YOU were complaining about how YOU had it paid for and never received it. Here you were called in to GET the service you had paid for and turned it down. +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jack Farmer | INTERNET: jack.farmer@crusade1.uucp.netcom.com | | Sysop | A.O.L. Crusade01.aol.com | | The Crusader BBS | FID0NET: 1:102/753 | | 1-213-665-4256 | Active Scientologist since 1974! | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ * WCE 2.0/2118 * !enif tsuj si gnihtyrevE Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: jvdmerwe@itu1.sun.ac.za (Jacobus van der Merwe) Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 13:00:16 +0000 > > Hello Kim Baker! > > In a message to All <12/07/94> Kim Baker wrote: > > KK> Dammit!! I thought they couldn't hurt me any more, but they have struck d > > KK> I was called by OSA Africa the night before last to go in for a Security > KK> Check. I said no. > > Not surprising as i recall YOU were complaining about how YOU had it > paid for and never received it. Here you were called in to GET the service > you had paid for and turned it down. > Dear Jack, the issue is not that they wanted her to come in for the sec-check, the issue is the tactics that they tried to use on her when she did not want to go. They tried to rip her apart emotionally. They used a friend to hurt her. They tried to make her feel guilty. They have no respect for your personal life if you are not absolutely with them. Makes me think of the 'Fair Game' policy. Are you sure it is not used anymore? I've seen some of it lately. Jack, what do you think of the fact that they tried to emotionally blackmail Kim? Jacobus > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jack Farmer | INTERNET: jack.farmer@crusade1.uucp.netcom.com | > | Sysop | A.O.L. Crusade01.aol.com | > | The Crusader BBS | FID0NET: 1:102/753 | > | 1-213-665-4256 | Active Scientologist since 1974! | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * WCE 2.0/2118 * !enif tsuj si gnihtyrevE > Article 10379 (1 left - 0 in thread) of alt.religion.scientology (27 lines): Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: schaf@socrates.ucsf.edu (Chris Schafmeister) Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 08:58:14 GMT Kim Baker writes: >Dammit!! I thought they couldn't hurt me any more, but they have struck deep. >I was called by OSA Africa the night before last to go in for a Security >Check. I said no. Kim, the organisation of scientology thinks (in sofar as it can think) that it owns you. But that doesn't matter. It's what you think that matters. [text deleted] >Kim Baker >In deep pain, but not going back - I have broken the final tie now. .Chris. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Christian E.A.F. Schafmeister Biophysics graduate student University of California, San Francisco UUCP: ucbvax!ucsfcgl!schaf "Biophysics . . . THE future." INTERNET: schaf@cgl.ucsf.edu Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: Kim Baker Subject: NEWSFLASH : Summonsed AGAIN!! Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 13:27:40 +0000 Kim said: > KK> Dammit!! I thought they couldn't hurt me any more, but they have struck d > > KK> I was called by OSA Africa the night before last to go in for a Security > KK> Check. I said no. Dearest Jack responded: > Not surprising as i recall YOU were complaining about how YOU had it > paid for and never received it. Here you were called in to GET the service > you had paid for and turned it down. Kim replies: Gee, jack I posted that while you were away - software problems, was it? You mean you've been lurking here all along? Here's a little song for you: "Hit the road, jack, and don't you come back [into my space] no more, no more no more no more, hit the road, Jack!" Kim > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jack Farmer | INTERNET: jack.farmer@crusade1.uucp.netcom.com | > | Sysop | A.O.L. Crusade01.aol.com | > | The Crusader BBS | FID0NET: 1:102/753 | > | 1-213-665-4256 | Active Scientologist since 1974! | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > * WCE 2.0/2118 * !enif tsuj si gnihtyrevE >