Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated Subject: New attack from cult of scientology From: informer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Date: 14 Aug 1998 17:51:25 PDT -------- Tilman said about the cult of scientology's use of false accusations of child abuse to "dead agent" my criticisms: >It is obvious that it is bogus: Dennis was the guy who reported the >abuse, and he has never been indicted. There were no charges filed. I was never even a suspect. It was me who brought to the attention of authorities the inappropriate sexual behavior my daughter reported to me while in the care of her mother. But that didn't prevent the San Diego Family court from systematically stripping me of my parental rights. Oh no. The new boyfriend/husband is a San Diego County Sheriff. They have a real "in" with the courts. The latest harassment they have launched is trying to get my drivers license suspended because I have a judgement for back child support from the years my vindictive ex-wife Rosa was hiding the child from me, taking the child out of state, and denying me visitation. This is merely persecution for my being poor. I have broken no laws. And yet my "privileges" as a citizen are being suspended because of a debt to an individual, which the state is assisting her in collecting even though neither she nor the child have ever been on welfare or used government support because of my enforced non-payment. It is like I am being punished for the crime my ex committed: hiding the child from me and not allowing court ordered visitation for years. If anyone has advice on how to fight the suspension of my driving "privilege" (they insist it is not a right), please let me know. I don't want to be an outlaw. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * * ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: New attack from cult of scientology From: "Rebecca Hartong" Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:25:58 -0400 -------- Ceon Ramon wrote in message <6r5fs1$12ps$1@nntp1.u.washington.edu>... >When she _was_ a child, Dennis had no way of paying support because his >wife, in blatant violation of the custody order, disappeared with their >daughter and he didn't have an address to send support payments. What he *should* have done (and what most non-custodial parents in the same situation fail to do) is continued making the payments to an escrow account in his daughter's name. Then, what he *should* have done is gone to the court and requested that his obligation to pay child support be legally suspended because his ex-wife had disobeyed the court's order to keep the child available for visitation. Dennis could not control the behavior of his ex-wife, but he did have control over how he was going to respond. Like most non-custodial parents in the same situation, he got pissed off and quit paying. He screwed up. Now there's a judgement against him for that money. As much as it may irk him to pay it, he owes the money and he ought to pay it-- even if he can only afford a few bucks a month. That his daughter is now an adult is irrelevant. His ex-wife paid out of her own pocket for the child's care during the years when child support was not being paid. The idea is that Dennis would now be reimbursing her for those expenses. YES, Rosa was wrong, wrong, wrong and a complete shit to have taken the child away. YES, Rosa was and is being a 'turd of misery' in claiming the money now after all these years. BUT-- YES, Dennis screwed up. And now he's being asked to pay-- Big Time. It hurts and it may feel unfair, but I swear... it's not. It's just the heavy price of having chosen the wrong response to his ex-wife's previous bad behavior. ======== Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated Subject: Re: New attack from cult of scientology From: informer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Date: 17 Aug 1998 09:56:25 PDT -------- "Rebecca Hartong" : Ceon Ramon wrote in message <6r5fs1$12ps$1@nntp1.u.washington.edu>... >>When she _was_ a child, Dennis had no way of paying support because his >>wife, in blatant violation of the custody order, disappeared with their >>daughter and he didn't have an address to send support payments. This is true. >What he *should* have done (and what most non-custodial parents in the same >situation fail to do) is continued making the payments to an escrow account >in his daughter's name. This is what I have been told. Even though Rosa had said leave us alone and you don't have to. >Then, what he *should* have done is gone to the >court and requested that his obligation to pay child support be legally >suspended because his ex-wife had disobeyed the court's order to keep the >child available for visitation. The court was 200 miles away. My car had many times had difficulty making the drive to and from the endless Family and Juvenile Court appearances (because remember, Reader, I had forced a Children's Services investigation). I was fresh out of the cult (much like landing on another planet) and was not told what to do if visitation was frustrated or the order was violated by taking the child out of state. I was suffering from a depression and had neither the financial nor emotional wherewithal to pursue my rights. It was not a pretty picture. And it was all engineered by the scienos to punish me after I got published on cults in the Magazine of the Midlands. >Dennis could not control the behavior of his ex-wife, but he did have >control over how he was going to respond. Like most non-custodial parents >in the same situation, he got pissed off and quit paying. He screwed up. No question about it. Perhaps I should have committed suicide back then; when I really, really felt like it. Then, perhaps, the problem would have been solved to the satisfaction of everyone who cared about me. >Now there's a judgement against him for that money. As much as it may irk >him to pay it, he owes the money and he ought to pay it-- even if he can >only afford a few bucks a month. They are entitled to garnish whatever I earn. Perhaps I will sign a record contract or get a book deal and pay them off, just to get them out of my life. Otherwise, I will pay it as I can. I will not put myself into the street to do so. And BTW, getting a complete release from Rosa, Holly, her scumbag-scieno lawyer and any other possible legal entanglements down there in San Diego Tortureville, is the first condition which will be met before settlement discussions with the scienos even begin. Or perhaps I will re-invoke the Vow of Poverty I took when I signed my billion-year C-ogre contract. And then we will see whether slavery still exists in the US. Of course, I already know the answer to that one. >That his daughter is now an adult is irrelevant. His ex-wife paid out of >her own pocket for the child's care during the years when child support was >not being paid. The idea is that Dennis would now be reimbursing her for >those expenses. That's the idea. Of course $70K for 10 years of having a child hidden from me is a tad excessive, no? File it under "No good deed ..." >YES, Rosa was wrong, wrong, wrong and a complete shit to have taken the >child away. YES, Rosa was and is being a 'turd of misery' in claiming the >money now after all these years. BUT-- YES, Dennis screwed up. And now >he's being asked to pay-- Big Time. It hurts and it may feel unfair, but I >swear... it's not. It's just the heavy price of having chosen the wrong >response to his ex-wife's previous bad behavior. There is injustice in the fact that Rosa admittedly denied me access to my daughter for ten years, and then, financed by the scienos, popped out from under her rock to feed them the false declaration they needed to get Whyte to issue the unconstitutional EX-PARTE Writ of Seizure. Then using the scieno-paid ho-lawyer she continued to pursue me endlessly through the San Diego Family courts, in order to get me convicted of paying my support a few days late, when I ~was~ paying. This all done simply to be able to demonize me to the jury in the copyright case, in just exactly the same manner as I have been demonized to my daughter, and to the rest of the world on this newsgroup. Does the phrase "... find or manufacture ..." ring a bell? If you think this constitutes anything remotely similar to justice or equity, you are sadly mistaken, Rebecca. It is the typical scieno misuse of public resources (courts, they don't even pay taxes to support) to carry out their institutionalized, skripturally-mandated persecution of critics, dissidents and whistleblowers. And BTW, I had offered to settle the debt to Rosa for what I believed was a fair percentage of what was owed. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *