From: tilman@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Reverend Bagley speaks Date: Fri, 07 Jul 1995 16:29:41 GMT A father got this letter from Reverend Bagley: [schnip] Rather than let my lawyers have all the fun, I will write to you this once and straighten you out. I have a great urge to beggar you to your last pair of socks, but I will curb the desire a little longer. If you had the gut of a demented swineherd you would have read those pieces of literature I so graciously had sent to you... do not judge people by yourself. Not everyone is a mass murderer like yourself. Yes, I know quite a bit about you and your various projects during the war. And how do you sleep at night? I hope tis ill... I am expert at harassment, try me and find out. You are not strong enough. You are not smart enough. You haven't the funds to go through long lengthy court battles. We have. Bigger men than you have done their best to stop us. They failed. So will you because you are a blatant moron in comparison. We joust only with our peers, others like you we will simply gobble up... one more word out of you and I'll have you investigated. I might anyway. I have never seen one person yet that resisted Scientology who didn't have a great deal to hide. And you evidently won't look at free books sent to you, so you must, perforce have a great deal to conceal. [The letter continued with more accusations of guilt on the part of the father, along with praise of Scientology and concluded on this ominous note.] If you want to start a Donnybrook, Buddy, wail away; to use the argot of the streets I'll just start my people to work on you and then before long you will be broke, and out of a job and broken in health. Then I can have my nasty little chuckle about you and get back to work. . . You won't take long to finish off. I would estimate three weeks. Remember: I am not a mealy mouthed psalm [sic] canting preacher. I am a minister of the Church of Scientology I am able to heal the sick and I do. But I have other abilities which include a knowledge of men's minds that I will use to crush you to your knees. You or any other wretch that stands in our way. Cause the list is long, but their careers are very short of those that have jousted with us. With the utmost sincerity possible Reverend Andrew Bagley Organisational Secretary P.S.: Don't reply to this letter. If I want to get in touch with you, I'll be able to find you. Anywhere. [schnip] Reverend Andrew Bagley wrote this letter to a father who didn't want to pay the courses of his son, and reported the scienos. Later, the father paid the bill, and his son took approximately $4,500 worth more courses in Scientology paying for them himself the next time from a $5,000 inheritance. From: Paulette Cooper, "The scandal of Scientology" (re-formatted, sorry for the typos) --- Tilman Hausherr [Awards: KoX, DB, Koos "seal of approval"] biz: tilman@sietec.de http://www.sietec.de/ (company page) home: tilman@berlin.snafu.de http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/ Praise Xenu, Mozilla and "Bob"! (and say "Hi" to Warren McShane !) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: More on Bagley From: cultxpt@primenet.com (Jeff Jacobsen) Date: 8 Jul 1995 17:13:43 GMT Tilman's post of a letter from andrew Bagley sounded familiar, so I found this quote from Saturday Evening Post, March 21, 1964 titled "Have You Ever Been a Boo-hoo?" by James Phelan; Hostility toward Scientology can even be defined as refusing to pay a Scientologist's bill. A middlewesterner, whose son owed a New York Scientologist $350 for "processing," at $22 an hour, complained that the treatment was worthless and declined to pay. He received a two-page letter on the letterhead of the Founding Church of Scientology bearing the hand-written signature of a Rev. Andrew Bagley, Organization Secretary. "If you want to start a donnybrook, buddy, wail away," the letter said. "To use the argot of the streets, I'll just start my people to work on you, and then before long you will be broke and out of a job, and broken in health. Then I can have my nasty little chuckle over you... You won't take long to finish off. I would estimate three weeks. Remember: I am not a mealy-mouthed, psalm-chanting preacher. I am a minister of the Church of Scientology! I am able to heal the sick and I do. But I have other abilities, which include a knowledge of men's minds that I will use to crush you to your knees." The recipient quickly ponied up the money. [end quote] -- ////// "It's like, a.r.s. is a GREAT BIG SUPER-SMART BRAIN, and Co$ confusion and disinformation tech is a leettle-bitty theety-wheety brain." (Daniel Davidson) ftp.primenet.com /users/c/cultxpt