Re: R: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

Hello Andrea, is the problem with the decoders only present in programing mode and can you use the decoder together with ddw for driving or do both modes (driving and programing) not work with ddw? One could set the serial port baudrate to to this special value and test it. If it works a new option could be introduced to ddw. Yours Michael On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:59:46 +0200, Andrea <raggi.andrea@alice.it> wrote: > > > > > > > > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > > > > > > > st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   > > Dear Fred, > > I use a homemade system that is present on the > dccworld web site. > >   > > This is the link to the booster that I use with the > ddw server. > > http://www.dccworld.it/index.php?page=dccpratico/progetti/zdcc_booster.html > >   > > The booster is connected to the PC with the ACK > Detector (serial port rs232). > > Please find here further information or better for > you figures (sorry, but the site is in Italian language) > >   > > This is the link to the ACK Detector, that allow you > to connect the serial port to the booster. > > http://www.dccworld.it/index.php?page=dccpratico/progetti/srcp_collegamenti.html > >   > > I use 2 different systems as software: > > 1.                  > Ddw server with rre, > railprog or  emu for marklin and traincontroller (prefered). > > 2.                  > only to program: prolok > >   > > The system works good with Uhlenbrock loco decoder > and tam electronic switch decoder, but only prolok works with this fleischmann > decoder (prolok works only with the 16457 bps option on, otherwise the loco > doesn’t make the short movement). > >   > > The loco doesn’t respond when I use ddw server, > in the whole configuration (railprog or traincontroller). > > I ask you for the 16457 bps because I’m >  able to program the fleischmann decoder only with this option on. > > I hope that the system that I use is now more clear > for you. > > I’m awaiting to receive some tips. > > Thank in advance, > > Andrea > >   > >   > > > > > > > > > > Da: > owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > [mailto:owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com] > Per conto di Fred Stevens > Inviato: sabato 15 > settembre 2007 10.47 > A: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > Oggetto: Re: DDW-DDL-ML Problem > with SRCP > > > >   > > > > Dear Andrea, > >   > > I believe you are trying to do something impossible. > > There is no reason to change any baud rates with > DDW. > > I guess you try to connect something with the serial > port of your PC and than run DDW to control it?? > > That’s not the way things are done. > > I really would like to help you, but I need more > information to understand what exactly you are trying to do. > >   > > Fred > >   > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Andrea > > > > > > To: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, > September 15, 2007 8:34 AM > > > > > > Subject: R: DDW-DDL-ML Problem > with SRCP > > > > > >   > > > > Dear Fred, > > I tried it already. I > think it’s strange that nobody used ddw server with a Fleischmann > decoder. Have you some experiences or positive feedback? > > Which baud rate does > server use? Is it possible to change it to 16457 bps? > > Thanks a lot, > > andrea > >   > > > > > > > > > > Da: > owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > [mailto:owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com] Per conto di Fred Stevens > Inviato: sabato 15 settembre 2007 > 1.25 > A: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > Oggetto: Re: DDW-DDL-ML Problem > with SRCP > > > >   > > > > See my previous reaction. > > Your decoder is a twin decoder (DCC/FMZ). Perhaps > this decoder is not very pleased with the DDW signals (DCC/MM). > > You could try if it helps any, if you disable the MM > signals in the DDW-server. > > If that doesn’t solve the problem, I have no > further ideas, except the one I already gave, the decoder does not respond to > DDW signals at all. > >   > > Fred > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Andrea > > > > > > To: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, > September 15, 2007 12:41 AM > > > > > > Subject: I: DDW-DDL-ML > Problem with SRCP > > > > > >   > > > > I tried to program the > decoder: > > with prolok with the baud > rate setting to 16457 bps there is no problems, but with the ddw server and > railprog the decoder doesn’t respond. I found out that the decoder is fleischmann > 6839 twin. > > Could someone give me a > solution/tip? > > Thanks, > > andrea > >   > > > > > > > > > > Da: Andrea > [mailto:raggi.andrea@alice.it] > Inviato: sabato 23 giugno 2007 > 10.28 > A: 'ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com' > Oggetto: R: DDW-DDL-ML Problem > with SRCP > > > >   > > I tried with different > translations, but nothing it happens. > > I wait further tips. > > Andrea > >   > > > > > > > > > > Da: owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com [mailto:owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com] Per conto di Fred Stevens > Inviato: sabato 23 giugno 2007 > 0.26 > A: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > Oggetto: Re: DDW-DDL-ML Problem > with SRCP > > > >   > > > > Hi Andrea, > >   > > DDW is only for 99% compatible with all kind of > decoders. The 1% that do not work, are caused by the fact that the PC’s > serial port is not able to correctly produce the digital signal as should be. > 99% of the decoders on the market have enough tolerance to cope with this. > > Although I don’t have any experience with the > Digitrax brand, I strongly believe the belong in the 1% group that don’t > work. > > Have you tried al 3 possible NMRA translations in the > DDW server? Could be that one of them solves the problem. > >   > > Hope I could help out somehow. > >   > > Regards, > > Fred Stevens, Netherlands. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Andrea > > > > > > To: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 22, > 2007 11:43 PM > > > > > > Subject: DDW-DDL-ML Problem > with SRCP > > > > > >   > > > > Hallo, > > I’m a Italian guy. I’m using the srcp > server and I’ve a problem with a digitrax(?) decoder. I explain you > better: > > Two loco with Uhlenbrock decoder work without > problem; > > The switch decoder work without problem; > > I bought a new loco with digitrax decoder and it > doesn’t work. > > I tried with locomaus and with lokboss and it works > in right way. > > I don’t understand why this loco doesn’t > work with srcp server. > > Have you experience with this brand? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andrea > >   > >   > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dear Fred,

I use a homemade system that is present on the dccworld web site.

This is the link to the booster that I use with the ddw server.

http://www.dccworld.it/index.php?page=dccpratico/progetti/zdcc_booster.html

The booster is connected to the PC with the ACK Detector (serial port rs232).

Please find here further information or better for you figures (sorry, but the site is in Italian language)

This is the link to the ACK Detector, that allow you to connect the serial port to the booster.

http://www.dccworld.it/index.php?page=dccpratico/progetti/srcp_collegamenti.html

I use 2 different systems as software:

1. Ddw server with rre, railprog or emu for marklin and traincontroller (prefered).

2. only to program: prolok

The system works good with Uhlenbrock loco decoder and tam electronic switch decoder, but only prolok works with this fleischmann decoder (prolok works only with the 16457 bps option on, otherwise the loco doesn’t make the short movement).

The loco doesn’t respond when I use ddw server, in the whole configuration (railprog or traincontroller).

I ask you for the 16457 bps because I’m able to program the fleischmann decoder only with this option on.

I hope that the system that I use is now more clear for you.

I’m awaiting to receive some tips.

Thank in advance,

Andrea

Da: owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com [mailto:owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com] Per conto di Fred Stevens
Inviato: sabato 15 settembre 2007 10.47
A: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com
Oggetto: Re: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

Dear Andrea,

I believe you are trying to do something impossible.

There is no reason to change any baud rates with DDW.

I guess you try to connect something with the serial port of your PC and than run DDW to control it??

That’s not the way things are done.

I really would like to help you, but I need more information to understand what exactly you are trying to do.

Fred

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea

To: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:34 AM

Subject: R: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

Dear Fred,

I tried it already. I think it’s strange that nobody used ddw server with a Fleischmann decoder. Have you some experiences or positive feedback?

Which baud rate does server use? Is it possible to change it to 16457 bps?

Thanks a lot,

andrea

Da: owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com [mailto:owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com] Per conto di Fred Stevens
Inviato: sabato 15 settembre 2007 1.25
A: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com
Oggetto: Re: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

See my previous reaction.

Your decoder is a twin decoder (DCC/FMZ). Perhaps this decoder is not very pleased with the DDW signals (DCC/MM).

You could try if it helps any, if you disable the MM signals in the DDW-server.

If that doesn’t solve the problem, I have no further ideas, except the one I already gave, the decoder does not respond to DDW signals at all.

Fred

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea

To: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:41 AM

Subject: I: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

I tried to program the decoder:

with prolok with the baud rate setting to 16457 bps there is no problems, but with the ddw server and railprog the decoder doesn’t respond. I found out that the decoder is fleischmann 6839 twin.

Could someone give me a solution/tip?

Thanks,

andrea

Da: Andrea [mailto:raggi.andrea@alice.it]
Inviato: sabato 23 giugno 2007 10.28
A: 'ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com'
Oggetto: R: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

I tried with different translations, but nothing it happens.

I wait further tips.

Andrea

Da: owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com [mailto:owner-ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com] Per conto di Fred Stevens
Inviato: sabato 23 giugno 2007 0.26
A: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com
Oggetto: Re: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

Hi Andrea,

DDW is only for 99% compatible with all kind of decoders. The 1% that do not work, are caused by the fact that the PC’s serial port is not able to correctly produce the digital signal as should be. 99% of the decoders on the market have enough tolerance to cope with this.

Although I don’t have any experience with the Digitrax brand, I strongly believe the belong in the 1% group that don’t work.

Have you tried al 3 possible NMRA translations in the DDW server? Could be that one of them solves the problem.

Hope I could help out somehow.

Regards,

Fred Stevens, Netherlands.

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrea

To: ddw-mailing-list@kim.homelinux.com

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:43 PM

Subject: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP

Hallo,

I’m a Italian guy. I’m using the srcp server and I’ve a problem with a digitrax(?) decoder. I explain you better:

Two loco with Uhlenbrock decoder work without problem;

The switch decoder work without problem;

I bought a new loco with digitrax decoder and it doesn’t work.

I tried with locomaus and with lokboss and it works in right way.

I don’t understand why this loco doesn’t work with srcp server.

Have you experience with this brand?

Thanks in advance,

Andrea

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R: DDW-DDL-ML Problem with SRCP
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